World Trade Center Demolition Warning
9/11: Rudy Giuliani Interview with Peter Jennings (ABC): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vCg8Fp8aw8
Former Prime Minister of Denmark knew the first tower was going to collapse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b09NnCo_KIw
The specifics of the mission were harder to determine, as they had almost no information about the situation 80 or more stories above them. They also received advice from senior FDNY chiefs that while the building might eventually suffer a partial collapse on upper floors, such structural failure was not imminent. No one anticipated the possibility of a total collapse. (9-11commission.gov)
To our knowledge, none of the chiefs present believed that a total collapse of either tower was possible. One senior chief did articulate his concern that upper floors could begin to collapse in a few hours, and that firefighters thus should not ascend above floors in the 60s. (9-11commission.gov)
It sounds stupid, but it didn't enter my mind or I think anybody else's mind at that moment that there was any idea that that building was going to fall. -Michael Cahill FDNY EMS Division 6 nytimes.com
The realization hit that it's going to fall down, the top's coming off. I was still thinking -- there was never a thought that this whole thing is coming down. I thought that that blew out and stuff is starting to fly down. The top is going to topple off there..... It's like I can't believe the whole building is down. I was dumbfounded. -FDNY Battalion Chief Brian Dixon nytimes.com
At approximately 9:40am this discussion occurred in [World Trade Center 7 Design and Construction WTC7] :
I (John Peruggia, EMS Division Chief) was in a discussion with Mr. Rotanz and I believe it was a representative from the Department of Buildings, but I'm not sure. Some engineer type person, and several of us were huddled talking in the lobby and it was brought to my attention, it was believed that the structural damage that was suffered to the towers was quite significant and they were very confident that the building's stability was compromised and they felt that the north tower was in danger of a near imminent collapse. I grabbed EMT (Rich) Zarrillo, I advised him of that information. I told him he was to proceed immediately to the command post where Chief Ganci was located. Told him where it was across the street from number 1 World Trade Center. I told him "You see Chief Ganci and Chief Ganci only. Provide him with the information that the building integrity is severely compromised and they believe the building is in danger of imminent collapse." So, he left off in that direction.
Q. They felt that just the one building or both of them?
A. The information we got at that time was that they felt both buildings were significantly damaged, but they felt that the north tower, which was the first one to be struck, was going to be in imminent danger of collapse. Looking up at it, you could see that, you could see through the smoke or whatever, that there was significant structural damage to the exterior of the building. Very noticeable. Now you know, again, this is not a scene where the thought of both buildings collapsing ever entered into my mind.
I was there in 1993, 14 minutes after the bomb went off. I operated some 16 hours at the building and with all the post-incident critiques and debriefings with various agencies. We were always told by everyone, the experts, that these buildings could withstand direct hits from airplanes. That's the way they were designed. They went through all of this architectural stuff, way beyond the scope of my knowledge. It was hit by an airplane. That's okay. It's made to be hit by an airplane. I mean I think everyone may have believed that. We were all told years ago it was made to be hit by an airplane.
Captain Nahmod and I started heading down Vesey Street towards where we thought the command post would be. At that time we had received a page per Chief Peruggia to go into [World Trade Center 7 Office of Emergency Managment (OEM) OEM] at No. 7 World Trade and activate our post in OEM. ... Abdo and I went into No. 7, activated OEM, placed calls to EMS Citywide, RCC, to tell them we were there and we were activated. Maybe five, ten minutes, not even ten minutes later, a rep from OEM came into the main room and said we need to evacuate the building; there's a third plane inbound. That was the only thing I really heard because I said, Abdo, we've got to go, and we made it down to the lobby of the building, street level, met up with Chief Peruggia in the lobby of the building. He said that there was no third plane but we needed to re-establish OEM right there so we can coordinate what was going on. He had already been to the command post, so he told us, and he was trying to release people back to be operational. He was looking for the Fire guy to go back in. He was there with Captain Yakimovich. In OEM with Captain Nahmod and I was Chief Maggio, who is now retired, and another firefighter from the 1st Division. We were really trying to establish OEM and a treatment sector in the lobby of the building because there were people coming around us. Again, times are a little fuzzy initially for me. A few minutes later, John (Peruggia) came to me and said you need to go find Chief Ganci and relay the following message: that the buildings have been compromised, we need to evacuate, they're going to collapse. I said okay. I went down Vesey Street towards West.
Q. You were by yourself?
A. I was by myself, me and my helmet and my radio. I got to the corner of Vesey and West. I found some EMS vehicles. I think I saw Chief Gombo there. I'm not really sure. I mentioned to the EMS people there, again, not knowing who they were, I said you need to get away from here, the building might collapse, we need to leave this spot. As I was walking towards the Fire command post, I found Steve Mosiello. I said, Steve, where's the boss? I have to give him a message. He said, well, what's the message? I said the buildings are going to collapse; we need to evac everybody out. With a very confused look he said who told you that? I said I was just with John (Peruggia) at OEM. OEM says the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get out. He escorted me over to Chief Ganci. He said, hey, Pete, we got a message that the buildings are going to collapse. His reply was who the fuck told you that? Then Steve brought me in and with Chief Ganci, Commissioner Feehan, Steve, I believe Chief Turi was initially there, I said, "listen, I was just at OEM. The message I was given was that the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get our people out." At that moment, this thunderous, rolling roar came down and that's when the building came down, the first tower came down. (nytimes.com_ZARRILLO_9110161.pdf)
Not too long after that I went outside to give an assist to -- the tracks on the MERV. They were trying to set the tracks up on the back of the MERV so that they could roll stuff. They couldn't get it straight. I walked past and was giving them a hand. All of a sudden somebody gave an alarm. I don't know who it was, that it was time to evacuate this area now as quickly as possible. Ambulances peeling out. MERV peeled out. People left their ambulances taking off on foot. People were confused. They didn't know, some of the folks who were assigned over there, knew where to report, but didn't know anything else about Manhattan, so they didn't know where they should go first, or where to report to at this point. That's when the second collapse started to
come down. All kinds of noise. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, very loud. Nobody knew what it was. Everybody stopped when we heard it. Everybody took it very seriously when the firefighters started running. -Michael Cahill FDNY EMS Division 6 nytimes.com
I was saying to Mala, that I'm looking up at the building and I said to her, this is going to fall. I said we should get out of here. This is going to fall. She says I know. I
think we are in the wrong place. I tried to tell Chief Grant and Chief McCracken I think it ' s going to fall, but they were so busy talking among themselves, I didn't have a chance to tell them what I was feeling. I think I should have shared with everyone, but when I felt that way, I looked around me. I gathered the resources, but I'm thinking what do I do when this thing falls. I looked around me and I saw this building on my right. It had the glass bottom doors and I just made reference to it in case god forbid, anything happened, my plan would be to run behind that building, grab my jacket over my head and just stay there for a while. Sure enough, after my thoughts travelled through my head, all I heard was run and I heard the sound, a sound -- I can't really describe it. It was an unusual sound. Then they are saying run, so I started to run and I looked back and I saw this white smoke just moving in this boiling motion towards us and I was like oh, my god, what's going on. I was scared, I was frightened and I'm running and everybody's running. - Mary McMillan FDNY EMT nytimes.com
I'm looking up at the fire and thinking, wow, we're going to have a tough job there and it will probably burn for days, but I never thought it would come down. It did. nytimes.com_p11
It was right before the towers fell, which that was about between 9:55 and 10:00, approximately. Because we had gotten back upstairs with the last patient and there was nobody around. There were police officers there saying the tower was in danger of collapse and so they were evacuating the immediate area. -Anthony Bartolomey, EMT EMS Battalion 4. nytimes.com_p11
When we got out on to Vesey, there was a Port Authority cop with us and he said that they were given reports that the second building was going to come down. -Eric Berntsen FDNY nytimes.com_p6
Odigo says workers were warned of attack: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744
WE WERE HEADING NORTH UNDER THE LIEUTENANTS INSTRUCTIONS THAT THE FIRST BUILDING CAME DOWN THE SECOND ONE WILL -TIMOTHY BURKE FDNY Engine 202 nytimes.com
After that came down and the stuff cleared, the officer said, "Listen, we're not going to go back to that area. We're going to come around, because we don't know what else is going to come down, what else could come tumbling down." -Owen Carlock FDNY Ladder 122
SO WE GET BACK OVER TO 222 BROADWAY AND WE GET INSIDE AND IM TELLING EVERYBODY LISTEN I COULDNT FIND ANY EQUIPMENT BUT WERE GOING TO HAVE TO
GET OUT OF HERE BECAUSE TOWER 1 IS GOING TO COME DOWN THIS SERGEANT POLICE OFFICER SERGEANT GOES DONT TELL THEM THAT DONT TELL THEM THAT IM LIKE WHAT HE WAS LIKE - I WAS LIKE ALL RIGHT WHATEVER FORGET IT THEN IM NOT GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN ... THEN THE SAME SERGEANT WHO TOLD ME NOT TO TELL ANYBODY THE TOWERS WERE COMING DOWN HE ASKED ME YOU THINK WE COULD DIE FROM THIS DUST? IM LIKE RIGHT NOW NO BUT EVENTUALLY YES -JASON CHARLES FDNY EMT BATTALION 13 nytimes.com
There was talk about not knowing the stability of the building. I heard that being mentioned and not knowing where that report came from. It's like somebody was questioning the stability of the building. In fact, that was coming from Steve Mosiello, the executive assistant for Ganci. I think somebody asked him and he mentioned to Ganci. Somebody mentioned about the stability of the building. That happened to be shortly before the building did come down. Like I said, we must have been at the command post a good half an hour at that west side of West Street, just standing at that one location doing all that. -Lieutenant Joseph Chiafari, FDNY Safety Command nytimes.com
I think we did triage a little too close to the actual MCI. I mean, nobody knew the building was gonna fall like that, but, I mean, I think the engineers or somebody should have gotten there faster keep the firemen out. Like they said on the news about the jet fuel, it burns at 3,000 degrees or something. I mean, no one ever expected something like this, so you can’t say the Fire Department got caught without their pants. -Pasquale Felitti FDNY EMT EMS Battalion 4 nytimes.com
At some point in time we were told there was another event. We were in the lobby of the north tower. We weren't sure exactly what it was. We were told another plane hit the south tower.
Shortly thereafter we met in a little conference, myself, Chief Callan and Chief Pfeifer. Shortly after that discussion, we started to evacuate the north tower. We started telling everybody come on down. That was repeated a number of times. However, we didn't get a lot of acknowledgment off of the handy talky communications. The latest report - the last report we had from anybody at all was that there were people that were heading up around the 48th floor. That was several minutes prior to this collapse. So we had people as high as the 50th floor while we had communications. I think that's about as far up as anybody got. We were calling people down on a number of occasions, but we weren't getting - except for the lower floors, companies coming down, they weren't coming down. -Chief Peter Hayden FDNY [[nytimes.com|http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110139.PDF
A. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE WAS A COLLAPSE THERES A FIRE THERE WAS A CAR FIRE LIKE WHAT DO YOU DO FIRST?
Q. EXACTLY PLUS AS PART OF THE EVENT YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOURE ACTUALLY SEEING BECAUSE YOU DONT BELIEVE WHAT YOURE SEEING -BATTALION CHIEF ART LAKIOTES
Q. WHEN YOURE SEEING THOSE TOWERS COME DOWN
A. I NEVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD COME DOWN
Q. NO ITS AMAZING ITS -
A. I KNEW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A BAD SITUATION MAYBE PARTIAL A COLLAPSE YOU KNOW WHATEVER BUT NEVER THE WHOLE THING NO WAY I WAS IN CONSTRUCTION MANY YEARS BEFORE THIS
-FIREFIGHTER TIMOTHY JULIAN FDNY LADDER 118 nytimes.com
At that point I don't know exactly when the Commissioner and Mayor had left. It was pretty soon after they had left that Richie Zarillo, who works with EMS -- I believe he's an OEM liaison -- came running up to me. I was not on the ramp at this time. I was like almost at the sidewalk location. He said Steve, where's the Chief? I have to tell him, you know -- I said tell him what, Richie? These buildings are in imminent danger of collapse. I said how do you know that, you know? So he ran with me. I ran over and grabbed Chief Ganci and said Chief, these buildings are in imminent danger of collapse. He looked up at me --
Q. Had the second plane hit at this point?
A. Yes, yes, the second plane hit. We saw the second plane hit -- if you want me to go back to when the second plane hit. I was told by Chief Ingram, who was a terrorist and hazmat-type guy, that we've got to be careful of secondary explosions or secondary devices. Who knew that the secondary device would be another plane. People actually saw the plane. You heard it, the closer it got. It just got louder and louder. I say that he throttled up as fast as he could. That's what it sounded like, but I think he became more in earshot of us. And he just came in and put the plane into the building. As I'm looking up at this stuff that's going on up there now, I just like -- I'm saying to myself I've seen this in a movie. My whole recollection is going back to a movie or something I saw. I just saw this before. It's like before my eyes. I don't know if I ever did or didn't, you know, in a dream. Then at that point within a few minutes, Richie Zarillo came up to me. I'll go back to that. He said that these buildings are in imminent danger of collapse. I went right up to the Chief because I was a few steps away. I said Chief, these buildings are in imminent danger of collapse. And he said to me who would would tell you something like that? And he looked at me and he had that determined -- I have to say probably scared look on his face, who would tell you something like that. I said Richie, come over here and tell the Chief what you just told me. He got the words out of his mouth. I think it was maybe 25, 30 seconds later , maybe, the building came down.
Q. Did Zarillo ever say what he based that opinion on?
A. I believe the Chief said where did he get that from? He said from OEM. We were trying to determine exactly how he got it. In retrospect , how did he get it ? He was walkingt towards us. Was he coming towards us anyway and he got it over his radio? I think he told me he got it from Peruggia. There was like a relay type of thing, which maybe we should have and didn't have our OEM radios on at the location. There was a lot of havoc going on. I believe you were there , Jim , and you saw it also. So at that point the building comes down. I believe Chief Ganci said what the hell's this or what the fuck is this. -Steven Mosiello FDNY nytimes.com